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Node.js Foundation Core Technical Committee (CTC) Meeting 2016-10-05 #8915
Description
Activity
The usual reminders that:
- This meeting will take place in approximately 46 hours.
- Standup section is all ready to go.
I'm chaperoning a three day field trip for my two boys. I won't be back in
town until Thursday. Have fun everyone. Should be back on regular schedule
next weekOn Monday, October 3, 2016, Rich Trott notifications@github.com wrote:
Time
UTC Wed 05-Oct-2016 20:00:
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US / Pacific Wed 05-Oct-2016 13:00
US / Mountain Wed 05-Oct-2016 14:00
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US / Eastern Wed 05-Oct-2016 16:00
Amsterdam Wed 05-Oct-2016 22:00
Moscow Wed 05-Oct-2016 23:00
Tokyo Thu 06-Oct-2016 05:00
Sydney Thu 06-Oct-2016 07:00Or in your local time:
- http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=
Node.js+Foundation+Core%20Technical%20Committee%20(
CTC)+Meeting+2016-10-05&iso=20161005T20
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Node.js+Foundation+Core%20Technical%20Committee%20(CTC)+Meeting+2016-10-05&iso=20161005T20 - or http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+UTC%2C+Oct+05%2C+
2016+in+local+time
Links
- Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/
1qRJiogKTWvxiHQ3S16MIR7BlynbXZPjqWwPScUSI2Rg/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qRJiogKTWvxiHQ3S16MIR7BlynbXZPjqWwPScUSI2Rg/ - Previous Minutes Google Doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZsLMM29guCBPGh7KhuhZEq6YQCKybiTfTUIXajTBalM/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZsLMM29guCBPGh7KhuhZEq6YQCKybiTfTUIXajTBalM/
Agenda
Extracted from ctc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs
org prior to the meeting.
nodejs/node- Intl: Consider deprecating Intl.v8BreakIterator Intl: Consider deprecating Intl.v8BreakIterator #8865
Intl: Consider deprecating Intl.v8BreakIterator #8865 - net: multiple listen() events fail silently net: multiple listen() events fail silently #8419
net: multiple listen() events fail silently #8419
nodejs/CTC
- Scheduling Meetings test: increase --stack-size to prevent child process failure on ARM #14 Scheduling Meetings CTC#14
Invited
- Anna Henningsen @addaleax https://github.com/addaleax (CTC)
- Bradley Meck @bmeck https://github.com/bmeck
(observer/GoDaddy/TC39) - Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis https://github.com/bnoordhuis (CTC)
- Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR https://github.com/ChALkeR
(CTC) - Chris Dickinson @chrisdickinson https://github.com/chrisdickinson
(CTC) - Colin Ihrig @cjihrig https://github.com/cjihrig (CTC)
- Evan Lucas @evanlucas https://github.com/evanlucas (CTC)
- Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 https://github.com/Fishrock123 (CTC)
- Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky https://github.com/hackygolucky
(observer/Node.js Foundation) - Fedor Indutny @indutny https://github.com/indutny (CTC)
- James M Snell @jasnell https://github.com/jasnell (CTC)
- Josh Gavant @joshgav https://github.com/joshgav
(observer/Microsoft) - Michael Dawson @mhdawson https://github.com/mhdawson (CTC)
- Julien Gilli @misterdjules https://github.com/misterdjules (CTC)
- Mikeal Rogers @mikeal https://github.com/mikeal (observer/Node.js
Foundation) - Brian White @mscdex https://github.com/mscdex (CTC)
- Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots https://github.com/ofrobots (CTC)
- Jenn Turner @renrutnnej https://github.com/renrutnnej
(observer/Node.js Foundation) - Rod Vagg @rvagg https://github.com/rvagg (CTC)
- Seth Thompson @s3ththompson https://github.com/s3ththompson
(observer/Google) - Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki https://github.com/shigeki (CTC)
- Steven R Loomis @srl295 https://github.com/srl295
(observer/IBM/ICU) - Myles Borins @thealphanerd https://github.com/TheAlphaNerd (CTC)
- Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye
https://github.com/thefourtheye (observer) - Trevor Norris @trevnorris https://github.com/trevnorris (CTC)
- Rich Trott @Trott https://github.com/Trott (CTC)
Notes
The agenda comes from issues labelled with ctc-agenda across all of the
repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that
should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.
Joining the meetingUberconference; participants should have the link
& numbers, contact me if you don't.
Public participationWe stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen
to it live, it should start playing at
https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live
https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on.
There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and
then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to
before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should
show up.Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to
interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if
you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators
https://github.com/orgs/nodejs/teams/collaborators
in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth
putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.—
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I should be able to make it, but there’s a good chance I’m late, so don’t wait for me. ;)
Sorry, I will miss this meeting. I will have to get up very early in the next day.
I want to propose an agenda item. If this should be a separate issue just let me know.
Waiting for V8 5.5 for node 7
V8 5.5 comes with a flagless async/await, one of the most anticipated additions to ES. This will tremendously improve the quality of node development. It even has the potential to start a move away from transpilers. The slowdown in load times and additional hassle they add will no longer be outweighed by the pros of extra features they bring anymore, since after async/await, most of the necessary language features will be natively in, and the rest are just nice to haves that justify transpilation only for developers that just have to live on the edge :)
It's already 2nd week V8 5.5 is being tested in Chrome Canary, and it'll be a few more weeks before it's released. Waiting these few weeks would mean the whole node community won't have to wait another half a year to get flagless async/await, which would be the best Christmas ever!
So please, wait a bit, so we don't have to wait a lot :)
It may be possible to upgrade mid-cycle like we did in v6.50 with V8 5.0 -> 5.1. Depends on whether we can patch up the API and ABI breakage.
Reacted by Luigi Pinca and darsainI started working last week on the possible update to V8 5.5. For now it doesn't seem that there is much to do in order stay backward-compatible.
@darsain It depends, e.g. (as @bnoordhuis mentioned above) in 6.5.0 V8 was bumped from 5.0 to 5.1.
But note that the estimated release date of V8 5.5 is not in few weeks, but is scheduled for December, so it won't get into any Node.js release before that.
not sure how we could get in v8 5.5 in a Node.js release sooner than December
I didn't mean sooner than December, but sooner than next major Node.js release after v7.x.x. I think that was the main concern for @darsain.
As @bnoordhuis pointed out, there has been mid-cycle V8 upgrades in the past. I believe that just stating such possibility alleviates many concerns.
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Chiming in: 5.5 is planned to be promoted to Chrome's Stable channel beginning/mid December. At that point it didn't have any Stable coverage yet.
Given that Async/await is a complete new feature (and an "intrusive" one) that sounds like a high risk to me. If people want to play around with it they can already activate it via a flag in 5.4 but obviously it is not finished there.
@ofrobots FYI
cc @nodejs/v8
Time
UTC Wed 05-Oct-2016 20:00:
Or in your local time:
Links
Agenda
Extracted from ctc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.
nodejs/node
nodejs/CTC
Invited
Notes
The agenda comes from issues labelled with
ctc-agendaacross all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.Joining the meeting
Uberconference; participants should have the link
& numbers, contact me if you don't.
Public participation
We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen
to it live, it should start playing at
https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on.
There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and
then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to
before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should
show up.
Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to
interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if
you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators
in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth
putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.